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tax man? >> don't put it all on steve. >> i don't mind lowering your taxes as long as you're willing to have me lower your benefits because the numbers -- ultimately the math has to add up. joe, you are the great deficit hawk of all time. >> i am. >> you believe we should not be incurring this debt, so we've got to do something. >> right. >> what is that something? we have an aging society with a large commitment to social welfare programs that the public does not want to see materially reduced. you may want to, but the polls say the public does not want to see them materially reduced. >> by the way -- >> where is all this money going to come from? >> it's not about what i don't want or want. this is basic arithmetic. the deficit, the debt that is incurred by medicare and medicaid in the out years, it just can't be made up, even in a small part by increasing taxes on the margins anymore. i mean, you could take the tax rate up to 95%, perhaps. >> well, you don't have to go that high. the math h
tax man? >> don't put it all on steve. >> i don't mind lowering your taxes as long as you're willing to have me lower your benefits because the numbers -- ultimately the math has to add up. joe, you are the great deficit hawk of all time. >> i am. >> you believe we should not be incurring this debt, so we've got to do something. >> right. >> what is that something? we have an aging society with a large commitment to social welfare programs that the public...
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the president did something very clear when he wanted to raise tax breaks or get rid of tax breaks for the wealthy in that he forced the republicans to fight for the wealthy and the average american said we no longer understand them. if we're going to really change and do better on election day and particularly get the white house back, we better get average americans to think we're fighting for them every day not just a small group of americans. >> bobby jindal offered a few details on how to, quote, stop being the stupid party. he did also say this. >> today's conservatism is completely wrapped up in solving the hideous mess that is the federal budget. the deficits, the mammoth federal death and the shortfall on our entitlement programs. we have an obsession with government book gaming. it's a rigged game and the wrong game for us to play. no, the republican party does not need to change our principles but we might need to change just about everything else we are doing. >> listening to bobby jindal and listening to what john just had to say is this largely a messaging problem? >> no,
the president did something very clear when he wanted to raise tax breaks or get rid of tax breaks for the wealthy in that he forced the republicans to fight for the wealthy and the average american said we no longer understand them. if we're going to really change and do better on election day and particularly get the white house back, we better get average americans to think we're fighting for them every day not just a small group of americans. >> bobby jindal offered a few details on...
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. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to come out of the senate, and i think patty murray is going to do a very good job on that, is going to reconcile with the kind of budgets we're looking at. >> jared bernstein who absolutely deserves the nobel peace prize, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. and we'll be right back. ♪ alright, let's go. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ shimmy, shimmy chocolate. ♪ we, we chocolate cross over. ♪ yeah, we chocolate cross over. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing fiber one 80 calorie chocolate cereal. ♪ chocolate. 80 calorie chocolate cereal. did you just turn your ringer off so no one would interrupt and.us?one. oh no, i... just used my geico app to get a tow truck. it's gonna be 30 minutes. oh, so that means that we won't be stuck up here, for hours, with nothing to do. oh i get it, you wanna pass the time, huh. (holds up phone) fruit ninja!!! emergency roadside assistance. just a click away with the
. >> very briefly, jared, if you can, eric cantor says taxes are done, no taxes, so i guess another stalemate to come on that? >> i see -- it's hard to see how the budget that's going to come out of the senate, and i think patty murray is going to do a very good job on that, is going to reconcile with the kind of budgets we're looking at. >> jared bernstein who absolutely deserves the nobel peace prize, thank you, sir, thank you for joining us. and we'll be right back. ♪...
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republican party was primarily a party of very wealthy people and was only interested in cutting their taxes. they lost the latino vote because mitt romney talked about self deportation and the party of blocked immigration reform. and the african american vote was going to go to president obama. but they jammed it way up with their voter suppression effort. they've got to think more about fundamentals and not just organization. >> and, melissa, will you look at the american people, 68% say it's unacceptable to cut medicaid. 66% disapprove of the gop's negotiation over tax. what they are selling, the american people are not buying. they're in denial. they're acting -- in fact, they're saying that what we have is fundamental principles are right. we're just presenting it wrong. it's not the content they're saying it's the package. no, it's the content. >> you know where this is going to get really real for people on the ground? are these republican governors who are going to continue to try to block president obama's affordable care act that is going to now finally start taking effect on the l
republican party was primarily a party of very wealthy people and was only interested in cutting their taxes. they lost the latino vote because mitt romney talked about self deportation and the party of blocked immigration reform. and the african american vote was going to go to president obama. but they jammed it way up with their voter suppression effort. they've got to think more about fundamentals and not just organization. >> and, melissa, will you look at the american people, 68%...
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it should come from some tax reform, closing loopholes. this is going to be a heck of a fight, and it could go down to the bitter end once again. >> if you thought taxes were dealt with, apparently not. we seem to go back and forth between panic button and a pause button on capitol hill with these sorts of thing. mcconnell had thought that he had settled the issue, and speaker boehner too, with allowing higher rates and some other changes to limit some reductions, to bring in more revenue. they thought, okay, that piece is complete. well, now democrats are looking at putting a budget together that they haven't formally done, but said revenue will be in it. so that will be a huge fight. i think one of the hard parts tc and we struggle with it as journalists, the ideas are complex. the fact that it leads us into the future, it's so hard for any of us to see that crystal ball and know. so the deadlines have become the way they operate. needing short-term, immediate deadlines to force people to act. and that is exhausting for the public as wel
it should come from some tax reform, closing loopholes. this is going to be a heck of a fight, and it could go down to the bitter end once again. >> if you thought taxes were dealt with, apparently not. we seem to go back and forth between panic button and a pause button on capitol hill with these sorts of thing. mcconnell had thought that he had settled the issue, and speaker boehner too, with allowing higher rates and some other changes to limit some reductions, to bring in more...
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you're not going to be able to tax wall street now. minimum wage, that's out the door, raising that. workers' rights. and you know what this is all about in my opinion? this is about guns. harry reid knows that 51 votes would be available for the assault weapons ban but he knows damn well there won't be 60 and he doesn't want to hang this on the democratic party at all to all these rural senators. that's who he's protecting in this. but he is not standing up for the people at all. i just -- i don't know what kind of message can we send at this point? >> i think we send a message of total determination that as every issue is discussed and if mitch mcconnell has to sign off to put it on the floor, which is where we believe this lies, then on every issue we have to link this up and say you said if it wasn't functioning you would change it? 51 can change it. we're fighting to change it. and not let up for a minute. and the broader democracy initiative that we're a part of has got to go on on all the issues. >> this is another comment that
you're not going to be able to tax wall street now. minimum wage, that's out the door, raising that. workers' rights. and you know what this is all about in my opinion? this is about guns. harry reid knows that 51 votes would be available for the assault weapons ban but he knows damn well there won't be 60 and he doesn't want to hang this on the democratic party at all to all these rural senators. that's who he's protecting in this. but he is not standing up for the people at all. i just -- i...
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the president stood up for tax fairness, and people voted for him. he's standing up to protect social security and medicare. people want to do that. there will be some changes but not fundamental ones. on climate change 80% of the people in the ap poll agree with the president it's a real problem and we have to deal with it. the majority of the country is with him on gay marriage, with him on issues like inaugural reform. barack obama didn't just speak to america, he was speaking for america, no matter how much that pains republicans to hear. they're out of step and out of the mainstream. >> is it a deliberate effort -- here is conservative rich lowry from "the national review." he writes in politico that the real president obama is now revealing himself. by the way, i'm with that thought. i think it was the real obama, not covered up politics, the real thing on monday. he wrote, obama settled once and for all the debate over his place on the political spectrum and his political designs. he's an unabashed liberal determined to shift our politics and
the president stood up for tax fairness, and people voted for him. he's standing up to protect social security and medicare. people want to do that. there will be some changes but not fundamental ones. on climate change 80% of the people in the ap poll agree with the president it's a real problem and we have to deal with it. the majority of the country is with him on gay marriage, with him on issues like inaugural reform. barack obama didn't just speak to america, he was speaking for america,...
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. >> say on the tax policy, they fought on raising tacks on the rich. 60% to 70% of the public agree with the president on that. so they're marginalized on a lot of policy matters and the stupid comments don't come out. >> coming out for lower tacks are not going to get you beat. why don't they stick to the strong points. republicans look ridiculous this week when they decided to go after hillary clinton who is riding so high in the polls. why did they go after her at the very point she was at her strongest they attacked. let's take a look. >> i'm glad that you're accepting responsibility. i think that ultimately with your leaving you accept the culpability for the worst tragedy since 9/11 and i really mean that. had i been president at the time and i found that you did not read the cables from benghazi, you did not read the cables from ambassador stevens, i would have relieved you of your post. i think it's inexcusable not to know of the request for securities. really i think cost these people their lives. >> madam secretary, you let the consulate become a death trap. and that's nat
. >> say on the tax policy, they fought on raising tacks on the rich. 60% to 70% of the public agree with the president on that. so they're marginalized on a lot of policy matters and the stupid comments don't come out. >> coming out for lower tacks are not going to get you beat. why don't they stick to the strong points. republicans look ridiculous this week when they decided to go after hillary clinton who is riding so high in the polls. why did they go after her at the very point...